I don’t want to pay more than $700 for headphones and I feel comfortable having these as my endgame. They are practically all-black, expect for the metallic silver finish on the cup hinges and logo. I like the Elex for music, but I can't wear it for more than an hour. Ears validate the measurements, not the other way. Philimon, JonCharles, Vorlon and 10 others like this. I have a pretty big head (Beyers and AKGs almost don’t fit me) and I didn’t experience any discomfort with the Elear I had for a month, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The Clear carries more subbass but the sound signature pretty much tracks. Read full InnerFidelity review here: https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/focal-clear-over-ear-open-headphones Post #8,300 of 8,441 Coztomba Head-Fier. Thank you for the interesting read. The result is a headphone which, for my tastes, transcends the performance of both "donor" models. If true, that could increase prospective buyer's options at the very least. But I to think they’re a very solid sound. Both headphones come in beautiful boxes. It just so happens companies have been making sucky headphones lately. The Sennies seem slow in comparison but make up for it with better overall tonality imo. Focal Elear. Yeah, unfortunately that's not how pricing works in audio. If it in fact works, an Elear/Clear pad combo could be considered a viable option by some people, even if it just gets you say halfway there sonically. Forum Donor. Why is Focal Elear better than Sennheiser HD 600? … Elex is solid, I own it and Elear. Focal Stellia vs Focal Clear Headphones In the Box. I concur this: Elear trumps in bass quantity compared to Clear, and it sounds distorted and bleeds into the mids on certain tracks. I disagree on all 3 fronts. Inspired by Modernity vs Antiquity – Focal Elear vs Klipsch HP-3 Comparison Review Specifications. I realize the Clear pads cost I think $150 (maybe buy used? Focal's Elear sits behind the new Clear and the Utopia but remains one of the meatiest sounding headphones in the $1000 range. heard there is unit variation possibly so would want details about your unit and stuff like clipping and creaking/rattle. I dunno. The Elears are listed with a 1 year warranty at Crutchfield (it's dependent on country and retailer). Well, sometimes the measurements keep us honest. They have the same reference sound and warmth as the HD600 with a more refined and clear presentation. But it is also a bit brighter than Clear and has a little less bass. It does two things better than the Clear: I'm saving up for a pair of Clears right now because having gone through 2 pairs of Elexs that crackled I don't want to do the same song and dance a third time. The advantages of AKG K702 over Elex are: 1) better, wider and more accurate sound stage, 2) reverse U shaped sound signature, 3) lighter weight, 4) less clamping force, and most importantly 5) more comfortable for long gaming sessions. Does the clear have that mid suck out as the elear does? By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Holy pad rolls! Clear, absolutely. Also, the Elex fits in better with my X2, 4XX, 6XX, X love affair. Andrew Robinson 94,896 views The Elex has a 2 year warranty (from Focal) in the US. They also interact more with the pinna and create a more open soundstage than the Focal. Focal Stellia: Focal Clear: Focal Stellia headphones: Focal Clear headphones: 1.2 m cable with 3.5 mm connector: 1.2 m cable with 3.5 mm connector : 3 m balanced cable with 4-pin XLR connector: 3 m cable with 6.35 mm connector: 3.5 mm to 6.35 mm adapter: 3 m balanced cable with 4-pin XLR connector: zipping rigid travel carrying … I am really surprised they haven’t been reviewed more and as of right now, I think they’re underrated. Cookies help us deliver our Services. R. rcstevensonaz Member. There’s been a few comparison reviews from others between all the Focal headphones. My other pick would have been the Ananda, but the lack of comfort and built is unacceptable at this price segment. Archived. The Clear would carve out a really nice role in my collection between my HD800 and Auteur. Well at least it is to me, when you have a product available only to some parts of the market through a "dollarstore" outlet at half price and more or less the same if not better (!) I use them with an Audeze Deckard which is an excellent pairing. As you said the graph showing the Clear having more bass doesn't seem to align with subjective impressions :), Still, thank you for this effort and for confirming that the Elex is basically the Elear with Clear pads (now I just need to find a way to buy these damn pads). The Focal Elex pads are going back on sale soon (Drop has ordered over 1000 pairs), and this time Drop promises they will be heavily QCing the pads to ensure they don't have a repeat of the nightmare they had last time (read up on it if you don't know about it and you're curious, tons of threads about it on reddit and in the Focal Elex Pads discussion tab on the product page for them). Dec 22, 2020 ... Share: Facebook Google+ Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Link. A place for discussion, news, reviews and DIY projects related to portable audio, headphones, headphone amplifiers and DACs. They're not gonna work with MD ouf of the goodness of their hearts, the only one getting screwed are those trying to sell on the used market, cause that tanked in either case. Home; Gear Guide. Sennheiser HD 600 . Elear, Elex, and Clear all use the same driver. There’s been a few comparison reviews from others between all the Focal headphones. Dec 22, 2020 #378 . The advantages of AKG K702 over Elex are: 1) better, wider and more accurate sound stage, 2) reverse U shaped sound signature, 3) lighter weight, 4) less clamping force, and most importantly 5) more comfortable for long gaming sessions. purr1n, Dec 15, 2017 #1. SONY OLED A8H 4K SMART TV - AN IN DEPTH REVIEW - Duration: 22:19. But I can easily say that Elex and Clear are more similar and Elear is the odd man out. That said I am really drawn to Clear as it still has that Focal house sound of being incredibly dynamic, punchy, and visceral. I just wish the Elex looked more like the Elear. ShiZo Senior Member. Anyways... Have you tried pad swapping the Elex pads onto the Elear yet? The upper mids are filled in, but not overly emphasized. Any info or opinions are welcome. You won’t hear much from outside and while there is a little sound leakage at high volume, they’re ultimately pretty … Focal Elear. purr1n Finding his inner redneck Staff … I like the Elex for music, but I can't wear it for more than an hour. I routinely use it as a "control" in my testing. AFAIK the Elex is an Elear with a different paint scheme and pads. Joined Sep 7, 2018 Messages 470 Likes 308. Likes: Rottmannash and Daaadou. purr1n Finding his inner redneck Staff Member Friend BWC.

fab!..that’s supposed to such a classic model. Frankly, we wouldn’t have been surprised to see a price tag twice the size on these over-ears. Im looking for one TOTL set of cans to add to my Harem. May 6, … WTB. The Focal Elegias isolate sound really well. They also interact more with the pinna and create a more open soundstage than the Focal. The Sennies seem slow in comparison but make up for it with better overall tonality imo. The retail price for the Clear is 500.00 more than the Elear. Also, apparently the Elex on Massdrop has a better frequency response than the Clear and sounds better for cheaper, but I haven't heard it yet. Today, Massdrop is announcing their latest major headphone collaboration, the Massdrop x Focal Elex, a new sibling to Focal's flagship family of headphones (the Elear, Clear, and Utopia).We review and discuss the new Massdrop x Focal Elex, comparing it not just to Focal's other flagship models, but also to the Sennheiser HD650 (HD6XX), including frequency response and THD measurements. How does soundstage of the Focal Clear compare to that of the Elex? Desktop: PC > RME ADI-2 DAC > KH750 > KH120 or Focal Elex/Clear pro/Elegia/AKG 371/+5. I think people typically choose the Elex and Clear over the Elear. Jude's review in the Elex thread shows the frequency response between the two phones to be very, very similar. Joined Jun 13, 2020 Messages 96 Reaction score 119 Location Australia. Yeah the elex is pretty close to the clear, the elear has like audeze tuning with the recessed treble. I can't really say specific differences as I haven't done a side-by-side yet. On the head, they are as comfortable as any of the aforementioned Focal headphones. Headphones - Open Back. Review. For the Elex, Massdrop have done something similar to my thinking, and made the whole headphone a Sony-esque matte black, including using a darker version of the cable from the Clear. I don’t totally hear that much of a resemblance to the HD600 other than some shout, but I can see someone who likes the HD600 gravitate towards this. Any info or opinions are welcome. Two cables are included, one with a 6.5mm plug and one with 4-pin XLR, allowing an easy match-up with the variety of desktop amps Massdrop and others make. As @project86 has mentioned, the Elex has borrowed "here 'n there" from the Elear and Clear. The Elex has a 2 year warranty (from Focal) in the US. And they don’t just look expensive, they feel it too. Honestly you'd have to hear both to decide which you like more. Some have said you can hardly tell the difference between the two when you do that. Vorlon, ultrabike and Clemmaster like this. Also, I really like the Xs, they've been good to me so far. Others may suggest the AKG … I could wear the K702 for hours with no issues. The Focal Elear comes in an all black leather coated case. I don't know much because I haven't heard them both but whilst the elex has a similar fr to the clear the technicalities of the clear are better due to the improved driver. Read full InnerFidelity review here: https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/focal-clear-over-ear-open-headphones I'd be willing to upgrade to the Clear if soundstage was noticeably bigger. Ok, a lot of good responses and discussion in this thread, and I think I'll settle down in on the Elex, that'll open up my budget a bit more to also upgrade from my E10K/Magni 2 combo. Are they the same as with the Clear pads? It's like reference headphones, "what does I_want_all_the_tacos" think :) Seriously dude, you oughta have your own website or blog or something. 7Hz lower low-frequency? The … They contribute to the overall essence of the headphones themselves. I've seen the SBAF crowd refer to it as an 'Eclair' :). Most so called headphone experts will tell you that the Focal Clear is a step up from the Focal Elear. While the Utopia is definitely the more capable technical performer, many of the people I know prefer the Clear’s signature. The Focal Elear are great looking headphones that have a high-end and premium feel. ), but that's a far cry from $700 to $1500! Looks a lot more even throughout the mids. Did you notice the crackle on normal listening or only specifically testing for it on high volumes? A lot of people are probably unwilling to put up with the long lead times either company attaches to MD's bulk orders, they don't seem to be getting any shorter drop after drop so maybe that plays into the math. Ears validate the measurements, not the other way. As someone mentioned, given that most people I knpw take as close to perfect their equipment. Desktop: PC > RME ADI-2 DAC > KH750 > KH120 or Focal Elex/Clear pro/Elegia/AKG 371/+5. Dec 22, 2020 #383. R. rcstevensonaz Member. How We Score; Annual Awards; Search By Price. https://www.verumsonus.com/focal-clear-vs-focal-elear-vs-focal-elex-comparison-review/. Generally this headphone doesn’t need a dedicated headphone amp to go loud enough, most interfaces will drive it with ease. I've been going back and forth but it's hard to tell a lot of difference in the sound. I have definitely seen Clear owners post about that in the past too. Focal Clear has the same high sensitivity as Elear, yet the voice-coil has been changed from 80 to 55 Ohms.This means that from the same source set at the same volume Clear will go louder. Massdrop Focal Elex Review Hello all!. Press J to jump to the feed. A lot of MD editions do that tho, what is Senn trying to sell HD660S and even the HD650 for? My Clear looks very similar to the one measured here on my EARS (though raw and not DF compensated). I auditioned the Clears already, and loved them, but Im not sure how they compare to the cheaper Elex. Clear has a different voice coil, but different doesn't objectively mean better. Would you say the Clear is worth the premium over the Elex? I think the Elex is pretty balanced sounding and has good bass extension. The sound is overall a little less … Focal Clear CSDs . Top Reader Voted Headphones; Dynamic … Different ears I guess. This may sound redundant but what does a Elear with Elex pads sound like? Their sound quality follows more our target curve with excellent mid and treble ranges. 5Hz vs 12Hz; 7dB/mW higher sound pressure level? Edit if you're located in an area that massdrop will ship the elex to then I think that's the easy choice once factoring in price. Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond, and here's enjoying a 'TOTL' headphone. Dec 22, 2020 #378. I have noticed that comparisons tend to say the Elear is a warmer sounding headphone (it has more pronounced bass). The Focal Clear is one of our top-selling headphones and has become a go-to for an open-back design. The Elex starts with the Focal Elear and sprinkles in certain aspects from their new Clear design. Focal Elear Klipsch HP-3; Frequency Response: 5 Hz-23 kHz : 5 Hz-45 kHz: Impedence: 80 ohms: 25 ohms: Type: open-back, over-ear: triple-vented, semi-open, over-ear: Sensitivity: 104 dBSPL/1mW: 98 dBSPL/1mW: Drivers: 40 mm, “m-shaped dome” free-edge, 52 mm bio-dynamic: … purr1n, Dec 20, 2017 #2. I know I'd read it! 39. This new model to this lineup essentially takes the Elear, removes it’s pads and puts the Clear pads on them, along with a fresh paint job, improved cables from the Clear, and reduces the price tag by a couple hundred dollars to the selling price of $699. I’ve got to think that one can now find a little cheaper. After that, it’s a bit tougher. I think the elex is considered to be 90-95% of the clears and the elear is the odd triplet. That person thinks the Clear is muddy, shouty, and not as warm as the Elex. Settled on Focal Clear, or Elex. Well, sometimes the measurements keep us honest. The Elear is my favourite-looking headphone, and then Massdrop went ahead and blacked out all that detail :(. Review. I have the Focal Clear and I've heard other Focal headphones at various stores and shows. 0 transactions. Dec 22, 2020 #383. amirm said: Yes, I plan to do that. They have a nice grill on the cups and a well-padded headband. SONY OLED A8H 4K SMART TV - AN IN DEPTH REVIEW - Duration: 22:19. It seems like people have had the same "driver crackle" issues with all the Focals. Desktop: PC > RME ADI-2 DAC > KH750 > KH120 or Focal Elex/Clear pro/Elegia/AKG 371/+5. Cheers Share This Post post-16053427. Last year, Massdrop announced a collaboration with Focal and started collecting funds for the Focal Elex. For EDM, these can be awesome, or they can suck a lot. 1 comment. RayDunzl Major Contributor. I only demo’d the Clear once a few months ago for a bit, but I believe it is more detailed and “clear” since it is brighter than the Elex. First of all, I hope this doesn't sound overly syrupy and "fanboyish", but--you remind me a lot of Tyll. Focal has long been one of the biggest names in high end speakers, but its recently ventured into headphones and has been on a … I think people typically choose the Elex and Clear over the Elear. per audeze, a friend did warn me about the infamous weight issues for many of their models: suggested instead to try hfm…but their qc is so so. Close • Posted by. That said, having heard both: if I didn't have problems with my Elex I'd still own it. I can't say I have really noticed it in normal listening though. Also, where I think people see this as an upgrade from the HD6XX, it is similar in quality, but just better, more resolving and present. share. The pads, however, make a very big difference, and some aftermarket pads, like some of the Dekoni ones, will completely re-tune Focals to the point that they don't even sound like Focals anymore. We tried swapping pads and listened, but we tried it in a stupid way: one side had Elear pads and the other had the Elex pads. It so happens I also won an auction for a Focal Elex. The Elear I have in the office I bought as a result of them being available new-but-open-box, from another vendor, for $499. I think the main reason it hasn’t been reviewed much is because they’re just not in the hands of many reviewers. Close. Likes: Jimbob54 and thewas. Wouldn't look to upgrade. I auditioned the Clears already, and loved them, but Im not sure how they compare to the cheaper Elex. As a recent HD800 convert, I appreciate your review and comparisons. Dec 22, 2020 at 2:01 AM. That's 31 … Posted by 2 years ago.
This is a brighter than neutral headphone, and if you throw really bright tracks at it, it’s going to be harsh. I bought a new pair for $1099 delivered. May 6, 2020 #2. They are practically all-black, expect for the metallic silver finish on the cup hinges and logo. Central Scrutinizer. Also, the Elex fits in better with my X2, 4XX, 6XX, X love affair. I am a little miffed because I don't think the Clears are twice as good as the Elex as the price reflects, but if I can get the improved driver that has a higher SPL tolerance I can't really put a price on that. Where they're different is that the Elex has more air in the treble & a wider sound stage; the Clear has more bass both mid & sub in addition to brighter highs. And DO NOT believe the dogma on the unfairly reviled HD700. Sennheiser HD 600. vs. vs. 18 facts in comparison. ishca actually likes a headphone for once O.o. I am a little miffed because I don't think the Clears are twice as good as the Elex as the price reflects, but if I can get the improved driver that has a higher SPL tolerance I can't really put a price on that. Always had a suspicion that the Elex was going to make the Focal product portfolio kind of awkward. Top view CSDs … Most of the build is metal, and the cups are large and well-made. Im looking for one TOTL set of cans to add to my Harem. I only demo’d the Clear once a few months ago for a bit, but I believe it is more detailed and “clear” since it is brighter than the Elex. Close. I have a lot of problems with it but I know if I sell it I'll just end up with another, like I've already learned once. Focal Clear vs Elear vs Elear with Clear Pads vs Elex Comparison Review. Joined Mar 9, 2016 Messages 10,735 Likes 10,049 Location Riverview FL. Head-Fier. Can’t wait to read your review! solderdude Major Contributor. Central Scrutinizer. Not a problem on the Elex. ... Bass the Ananda is the clear winner here, it has bigger bass image and doesn't clip on loud heavy bass tracks like some Hans Zimmer soundtracks. On the other hand, the Focal are better-built headphones and feel sturdier. I haven't noticed any QC issue, on the contrary – these are the most precisely built and finely tuned headphones I have encountered (except the Utopia obviously). Posted by. Obviously, it shares a good deal of the technology developed for the Focal Utopia, which I reviewed in Issue 270, but its drivers are made of aluminum/magnesium rather than of the beryllium used for the Utopia. ARE OLED TVS STILL THE BEST IN 2020? It fastens closed via magnets on the opening flap. This has the effect of making the mids more even. I have auditioned Clear and Utopia a few times now and Elex is pretty damn close to Clear. It is presented bea… Focal Elear vs Sennheiser HD 600. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Atoll HD100 | Dragonfly Red > LCD2C | HD600 | Andromeda | P1, D90 -> THX887 -> Clear, Elex, Andromeda, 6XX, ADI2+MogwaiSE>Susvara/Auteur/Eikon/Aeolus/HE500/Teak/650/600/580, Soekris 1541 - ECP T3 - Aeolus | HD 6XX | PM-3 | ES100 - MD Plus, Utopia / XBA-Z5 / AH-D600 / ER4SR / HD540. per audeze, a friend did warn me about the infamous weight issues for many of their models: suggested instead to try hfm…but their qc is so so. Also what does a Elear with Clear pads sound like? Headphones: Focal Utopia, Hifiman HE6, Hifiman HE1000 V1, ZMF Atticus, Sennheiser HD580, Sennheiser PC37x, Sony MDR-1000x, Koss KSC75 Time to get your act straigt frenchie! I'm worried he hit his head on the way into the store, I admit I find your measurements strange, when I auditioned both the Elear and the Clear side by side the Elear was clearly the one with the most bass (or rather mid-bass, it felt really boomy compared to the other). Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date; N: New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Dec 22, 2020 #383. [WTB] [USA-MI] [H] PayPal [W] Focal Clear and Focal Elex. So, I received a Focal Clear that I got and I love. Generally this headphone doesn’t need a dedicated headphone amp to go … If the purported effects of the pad swap could be replicated in REVERSE, than that could go a long way in furthering the hypothesis that the Elex is really just an Elear with Clear pads--and help us poor schlubs who want to pay as little as possible for the highest possible return in sonic value :P Thx in advance! Owned the Elex, best headphone under $1000 that I've heard, easily. The $1,500 Focal Clear are not one of those headphones. Press J to jump to the feed. It's that combination of knowledge, candor, graciousness, and well-spokeness. Both headphones are fantastic. Moving the bar up a tiny bit, I would clearly vote for the Focal Clears. The HiFiMan Ananda are better critical listening headphones than the Focal Elear. Innerfidelity is a much more credible tester than any other on the web, and his plots show an incredibly precise driver match. Some of the things I've read lead me to believe Focal 'phones might not be comfortable for big heads. I got to spend a number of days with the Utopia enough to know I love it. Dec 22, 2020 #383. I never got to spend enough time with the Clear, and was thinking about the Elex. There’s no active noise-cancelling here, but thanks to the closed-back design and comfortable fit of the cups, it almost feels like there is. On the other hand, the Klipsch HP-3 comes in a box made of wood. Joined Jun 13, 2020 Location Australia …

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